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but, ultimately in matters, chris, it is how he performs as secretary of defense. on gates, leon panetta set the bar pretty high and i think he'll clear the bar and is better prepared the next time. >> chris: laura, at various point, in hagel's testimony he didn't seem to know or thought much about major issues, about the pentagon, about mondaying, at one point called the iranian government legitimate and elected. are you as forgiving as senator bayh. >> the russians and the chinese were probably watching how this played out, because, i -- as bill kristol -- he was right when he said it wasn't just a second rate performance, it could have been the worst performance that ever took place at a confirmation hearing and that is saying something, when you're the secretary of defense it shouldn't be the fact that you won two purple hearts, were awarded those in battle, pat tip is not questioned. merit should count for something and he'll have to stand up against a, frankly, a american military that will be cut back and will have to stand for that and be able to stand stro
but, ultimately in matters, chris, it is how he performs as secretary of defense. on gates, leon panetta set the bar pretty high and i think he'll clear the bar and is better prepared the next time. >> chris: laura, at various point, in hagel's testimony he didn't seem to know or thought much about major issues, about the pentagon, about mondaying, at one point called the iranian government legitimate and elected. are you as forgiving as senator bayh. >> the russians and the chinese...
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>> you want the secretary of defense to want to defend our country. that is what we were doing over in iraq. that is what the surge was about too you'll ultimately and it was deemed a success and mccain said to hagel you are on the wrong side of history on this one. i think mccain is right on that point regardless of when we got in the war legitimately or not. hagel's overall problem wasn't just that exchange, by the end of the day people had almost forgotten about that because he had stumbled and really frownedderred throughout that hearing over even basic questions about the military. one.he did tell,. >> like what? >> our stance on containment in iran. >> what did he say about that? >> he talked about it containment versus prevention. >> obama's policy is to prevent and we will not adopt a policy to contain. >> at one point he said if i am cleared ask i become the next secretary of defense i will learn and know a lot more about this. that is not what you want to hear. you want them to know already you want some sense of expertise about the job and
>> you want the secretary of defense to want to defend our country. that is what we were doing over in iraq. that is what the surge was about too you'll ultimately and it was deemed a success and mccain said to hagel you are on the wrong side of history on this one. i think mccain is right on that point regardless of when we got in the war legitimately or not. hagel's overall problem wasn't just that exchange, by the end of the day people had almost forgotten about that because he had...
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that does not mean that he will not be a good defense secretary. what was fascinating to me, here were all of his former colleagues from his side of the aisle who were perfectly happy to swift vote john kerry and then vote for him -- i think there were only three dissenting votes. and here they have somebody who they agree with far more than they agree with john kerry on foreign policy, and they just trashed him. >> does chuck hagel have the know-how to handle the bureaucracy like the pentagon? >> before the recess, he was unsteady with his answers and grasp of the facts. later in afternoon, the third round of hearings, after he was more sure-footed, does he have the capacity? i think so, if you listen to the exchanges with center came from maine talking about the management of the defense department, issues there. a much more competent answer. >> what about this jewish lobby business? he apologized for using that phrase, but listen to this exchange with lindsey graham. >> name one person who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the u.s. senate.
that does not mean that he will not be a good defense secretary. what was fascinating to me, here were all of his former colleagues from his side of the aisle who were perfectly happy to swift vote john kerry and then vote for him -- i think there were only three dissenting votes. and here they have somebody who they agree with far more than they agree with john kerry on foreign policy, and they just trashed him. >> does chuck hagel have the know-how to handle the bureaucracy like the...
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>> i think he would an superb defense secretary. he has made clear in these hearingshearings under difficult circumstances that he's mainstream and he supports what the president sports--supports. i think he has carefully calculated and honest views in how and what we should be proceeding in the world. we are part of it. we clearly need a defense second to none in this particular issue. but we also have to be thoughtful about how we move ahead. i think he's conscious as we all are of the fact that expenditures are going to go down in the days ahead and he will be called upon to make difficult judgments for the president. i have every confidence from my knowledge of him that he will give the president the correct and proper adjustment. >> you called him a man of independent judgment. it seems that's what he was being punished for up on capitol hill. do you think that they were pillaring on him a bit? >> i think they were because in fact, he is not a tea party person. he is a main line person. he was talking main line views. there are
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their defense strategy is not premised on the u.s. coming to their aid in time of need, which is a good thing since we're not going to. lori: thank you for your time. >> thank you. lori: up next, a soft-drink tighten coca-cola making beer enemies than just new york nanny mayor mike bloomberg. he will play the and this part to controversy. democratic controlled senate must be brimming with confidence that it can pass a budget for the first time in four years. fox news the chief political fox news the chief political correspondent carl c officemax knows... fox news the chief political correspondent carl c ...tax time can be...well...taxing. so right now we'll give you... ...$10 off any turbo tax deluxe level software or higher! find thousands of big deals now... ...at officemax. olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small busins earns 2% cash back on every purchase, ery day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!
their defense strategy is not premised on the u.s. coming to their aid in time of need, which is a good thing since we're not going to. lori: thank you for your time. >> thank you. lori: up next, a soft-drink tighten coca-cola making beer enemies than just new york nanny mayor mike bloomberg. he will play the and this part to controversy. democratic controlled senate must be brimming with confidence that it can pass a budget for the first time in four years. fox news the chief political...
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their defense strategy is not premised on the u.s. coming to their aid in time of need, which is a good thing since we're not going to. lori: thank you for your time. >> thank you. lori: up next, a soft-drink tighten coca-cola making beer enemies than just new york nanny mayor mike bloomberg. he will play the and this part to controversy. democratic controlled senate must be brimming with confidence that it can pass a budget for the first time in four years. fox news the chief political correspondent carl cameron tells us why. >> announcer: you never know when, but thieves can steal your identity and turn your life upside down. >> hi. >> hi. you know, i can save you 15% today if you open up a charge card account with us. >> you just read my mind. >> announcer: just one little piece of information and they can open bogus accounts, stealing your credit, your money and ruining your reputation. that's why you need lifelock to relentlessly protect what matters most... [beeping...] helping stop crooks before your identity is attacked. and n
their defense strategy is not premised on the u.s. coming to their aid in time of need, which is a good thing since we're not going to. lori: thank you for your time. >> thank you. lori: up next, a soft-drink tighten coca-cola making beer enemies than just new york nanny mayor mike bloomberg. he will play the and this part to controversy. democratic controlled senate must be brimming with confidence that it can pass a budget for the first time in four years. fox news the chief political...
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this is the same chuck hagel who is president obama's nominee for defense secretary now and who john mccain spent the day today vilifying and attacking as manifestly unqualified for that job. back in the day john mccain not only was kind of best buddies with chuck hagel, but he specifically said that he thought chuck hagel would make an awesome defense secretary someday. >> as far as secretary of defense is concerned, there's a lot of people that could do that. one of them i think is senator chuck hagel. >> john mccain and chuck hagel were so close that in 2000, when john mccain realized that he was not going to get the presidential nomination, when john mccain decided he had to give up that bitterly fought nomination battle, the person his campaign put out to speak to the press the day he made his decision to withdraw was his dear friend, old chuck. >> two aides tell nbc news that the arizona senator will announce a suspension of his quest for the white house. back in arizona after his crushing defeat on super tuesday mccain called supporters to thank them. >> we're glad to be home.
this is the same chuck hagel who is president obama's nominee for defense secretary now and who john mccain spent the day today vilifying and attacking as manifestly unqualified for that job. back in the day john mccain not only was kind of best buddies with chuck hagel, but he specifically said that he thought chuck hagel would make an awesome defense secretary someday. >> as far as secretary of defense is concerned, there's a lot of people that could do that. one of them i think is...
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. >> chuck hagel has been nominated to be that next defense secretary. that is showing tomorrow on sunday here on c-span at 3 p.m. here's a look look at some of the new members of the 113th congress. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren was a advocate for the formation of the consumer financial protection bureau. she defeated scott brown and the came the first woman to represent massachusetts in the senate. in the house, joseph kennedy represents massachusetts's fourth district. watch in the house, live on and the senate on c-span 2. and this week's radio address, president obama and congresswoman susan brooks talked about needing to reduce the national debt. the president emphasized investing in programs that enable economic recovery. susan brooks urged democrats to pass a budget. >> hi, everyone. we face some important decisions about how to put down our debt in a way that grows our economy and create good jobs. the decision that will make a real difference in the strength of our recovery. we began with economists and business leaders saying that we
. >> chuck hagel has been nominated to be that next defense secretary. that is showing tomorrow on sunday here on c-span at 3 p.m. here's a look look at some of the new members of the 113th congress. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren was a advocate for the formation of the consumer financial protection bureau. she defeated scott brown and the came the first woman to represent massachusetts in the senate. in the house, joseph kennedy represents massachusetts's fourth district. watch...
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cuts for the defense contractors and they're very worried about that. it won't be good for the comply but now that they've settled the tax question it may not be all that bad. gwen: have they settled by delaying this debt limit deadline -- have they settled that or -- >> march 1 the spending cuts hit. march 27 the government's authority to operate runs out and then the debt ceiling is hit again on may 19 or something. i think that the republicans appear to have decided they don't want to have a fight over the debt ceiling so having -- that's pretty clever -- they didn't raise the debt ceiling, they suspended it for a couple of months. i think they're signaling they want to have a fight over spending and they don't see the debt ceiling as a good lever. gwen: boy, it feels like we're going to be talking about this more. you made it very clear. i like that. it has become an article of faith in washington that common ground is the capital's most valuable and elusive real estate so it was remarkable to watch four democrats and four republicans announce that
cuts for the defense contractors and they're very worried about that. it won't be good for the comply but now that they've settled the tax question it may not be all that bad. gwen: have they settled by delaying this debt limit deadline -- have they settled that or -- >> march 1 the spending cuts hit. march 27 the government's authority to operate runs out and then the debt ceiling is hit again on may 19 or something. i think that the republicans appear to have decided they don't want to...
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but hagel himself was on the defensive a lot today. and if the administration really wants him, they'd better back him and they'd better back him really fast and furious. >> richard, i thought he showed a great deal of composure. really took the high road when he was being attacked. >> look, there's a lot of personal animus there from john mccain to his old friend. they went out campaigning against each other. look, they may have split on the question of the surge in iraq, but the problem for john mccain is he was the biggest -- one of the biggest advocates for invading iraq. and so john mccain might want to try and whitewash the whole experience and pretend like it was all a great thing for america. but you know, when you look back at it, chuck hagel got the overall analysis right. this was the biggest foreign policy disaster since vietnam, where they both served. it's very personal. >> david, your thoughts. >> john mccain wants to start the conversation of iraq at the surge and not before that. and hell has no fury like mccain's scor
but hagel himself was on the defensive a lot today. and if the administration really wants him, they'd better back him and they'd better back him really fast and furious. >> richard, i thought he showed a great deal of composure. really took the high road when he was being attacked. >> look, there's a lot of personal animus there from john mccain to his old friend. they went out campaigning against each other. look, they may have split on the question of the surge in iraq, but the...
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supreme court reviews two cases that says the california ban on same-sex marriage and the defense of marriage act which denyies federal benefits to bay and lesbian married couples. the want to strike down both laws. the kid line for san jose to join the san francisco brief is valentine day. >> look at this police sketch of a man police are looking for who forced his way into the home of a 74-year-old woman and her daughter open friday. the man punched the older woman in the face. the mother and daughter escaped but the man and a second suspect chased them. they attacked the older woman a second time before running off. >> the san francisco 49ers hold a final team meeting at their headquarters this morning and clean out their lockers. a disappointed team returned home after the heartbreaking loss in super bowl xlvii. kaepernick averaged the crowd of 100 people who turned out to growth the team at the airport. hundreds of others cheered them when they arrived at the santa clara pack trace facility. coach harbaugh was among the last to emerge and took time to say thanks to the fans and
supreme court reviews two cases that says the california ban on same-sex marriage and the defense of marriage act which denyies federal benefits to bay and lesbian married couples. the want to strike down both laws. the kid line for san jose to join the san francisco brief is valentine day. >> look at this police sketch of a man police are looking for who forced his way into the home of a 74-year-old woman and her daughter open friday. the man punched the older woman in the face. the...
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so look at what the next defense secretary is going to have to supervise massive defense cuts. make key decisions, long-term technical advance, short-term rdiness. these are tough questions. you have to be able to present leadership and toughness. he is personally a tough guy. i've seen him oppose the iraq war with other republicans. he personally has that courage. but can he project that and show mastery of the building? that's the question. >> the ability to be a salesman, a politician. >> absolutely. let's divide politics from all of this. you know, ralph just said this was about judgment. and david just said opposing the war in iraq takes courage. i think the notion in some ways to say because chuck hagel doesn't believe what john mccain says you question his judgment. for somebody that carried a gun as a general in vietnam, i'm going to trust their ability -- >> well, chuck hagel doesn't believe what he says 10 years ago and 12 years ago. >> i want to go to immigration. this is chuck schumer this week on the issue of immigration. >> for the first time ever, there is more p
so look at what the next defense secretary is going to have to supervise massive defense cuts. make key decisions, long-term technical advance, short-term rdiness. these are tough questions. you have to be able to present leadership and toughness. he is personally a tough guy. i've seen him oppose the iraq war with other republicans. he personally has that courage. but can he project that and show mastery of the building? that's the question. >> the ability to be a salesman, a politician....
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some of these represent -- senators are representing defense contractors. they want to keep the bases in their state. they want to keep the contracts. some of them are just trying to score a political point, to attack the president as weak and naive and dangerous and even treasonous, as you just suggested. but many of them are just stuck in this cold war mentality and they can't break out of it. it's not just bayonets and battleships. it's nuclear weapons have a decreasing relevance to the threats we face today. but here you have these senators from the conservative wing of the party still clinging to this cold war arsenal, this cold war threat. so when they see somebody like chuck hagel, who's willing to question assumptions, who's thinking new, who wants to state what exactly would we use a nuclear weapon for, how many do we need, can we do with 400, do we really need, as you say, 5,000, that's very threatening to them and you saw that on display today. >> in terms of how they fit in to broader conservative politics on this, isn't it true that more sort o
some of these represent -- senators are representing defense contractors. they want to keep the bases in their state. they want to keep the contracts. some of them are just trying to score a political point, to attack the president as weak and naive and dangerous and even treasonous, as you just suggested. but many of them are just stuck in this cold war mentality and they can't break out of it. it's not just bayonets and battleships. it's nuclear weapons have a decreasing relevance to the...
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we'll ask the panel whether his position as defense secretary is in trouble. i got it when we could download an hd movie in like two minutes. [ male announcer ] once you've got verizon fios -- america's fastest, most reliable internet -- you get it. but don't take our word for it, ask a real fios customer. ask me why fiber optics matters. ask me about the upload speeds. [ male announcer ] so, send a tweet, and get the real scoop from a real fios customer. supercharge your internet speeds. switch to fios online for only $94.99 a month and we'll triple your speed for free with an upgrade to fios quantum internet. call the verizon center plus, get $250 back for customers with disabilities with a 2-year agreement. at 800-974-6006 tty/v. ♪ >> i support the president's strong position on containment. i have been handed a note that i misspoke and said, i supported the president's position on containment. if i said that, it meant to say that i -- his position on containment, we don't have a position on containment. >> to make sure your correction is clear, we have a
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syrians inside will say, we have asked you for defensive weapons. you have refused. we have asked you for a no-fly zone to ground those fighter jets that bomb bakeries. you have refused. we have no one to turn to but god. that is where the radicalization stems from. and you have nothing, you will turn to god. i can't blame them. if i were watching my children get sniped, i would turn to god as well. >> what you think of that? >> how can you argue against that? it is a compelling -- >> turn to god? or turn to someone who is launching jihad in the name of god? >> we sanctioned -- which was greeted with great consequence in washington, but in syria was viewed as a horrible thing. the islamists in the attack on the airbase -- it is the islamist fighters who prevail. not the syrian military. >> because they are not getting help from the rest of the international community? >> credited with over 600 suicide bombings -- i do not know the answer. it is hard for me. i am not sitting in moral judgment, nor am i immune to the terrible traumas and suffering. i am looking for a r
syrians inside will say, we have asked you for defensive weapons. you have refused. we have asked you for a no-fly zone to ground those fighter jets that bomb bakeries. you have refused. we have no one to turn to but god. that is where the radicalization stems from. and you have nothing, you will turn to god. i can't blame them. if i were watching my children get sniped, i would turn to god as well. >> what you think of that? >> how can you argue against that? it is a compelling --...
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. >> here's lindsay graham, badgering defense nominee hagel. about his whether the iranian revolutionary guard should be designated terrorist organization. i think this is aimed at south carolina's right wing. let's listen. >> if there was a vote on the floor of the senate this afternoon, to label the iranian revolutionary guard, the people who have killed our soldiers in iraq, some of the most vicious people to the people of iran themselves, if there were a vote tomorrow or this afternoon or after lunch, would you still vote no? >> well i would want to know from the president, what they were doing. but again -- >> i mean you read the paper, you watch tv, you got any doubt what they're doing? if you had a chance tomorrow, today, after lunch, to vote to say that the iranian revolutionary guard was a terrorist organization, would you still vote no? >> well the reason i voted no to start with -- >> well you told me that. my question is would you reconsider and would you vote yes this time? or would you still vote no? >> times change, i recognize t
. >> here's lindsay graham, badgering defense nominee hagel. about his whether the iranian revolutionary guard should be designated terrorist organization. i think this is aimed at south carolina's right wing. let's listen. >> if there was a vote on the floor of the senate this afternoon, to label the iranian revolutionary guard, the people who have killed our soldiers in iraq, some of the most vicious people to the people of iran themselves, if there were a vote tomorrow or this...
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. >> defense secretary leon panetta says that if sequestration kicks in and billions in defense cuts are allowed to stand, he will have to throw the nation's defense strategy out the window, damaging our ability to respond to crises. if congress does not act to stop this, it will be a $1.20 trillion cut in spending, half from the defense department, no corresponding rise and a texas. what is your best guess, evan? >> i think it is going to happen. i don't think congress is capable of getting it together. to. >> if that happens, mark, the consequences? >> carl levin thinks the odds are probably even. but the iceberg is there, we can see it, and we continue to sail in the direction of it. i think republicans, particularly speaker boehner, don't want eight. >> colby, how did it come to this? >> they kicked it down the road on this problem, they put it off, thought it would never happen. they put it up to frighten everybody, but they cannot get themselves together on the question of tax cuts, cutting spending, entitlement reform. they cannot get it done. we are not going to have sequestr
. >> defense secretary leon panetta says that if sequestration kicks in and billions in defense cuts are allowed to stand, he will have to throw the nation's defense strategy out the window, damaging our ability to respond to crises. if congress does not act to stop this, it will be a $1.20 trillion cut in spending, half from the defense department, no corresponding rise and a texas. what is your best guess, evan? >> i think it is going to happen. i don't think congress is capable...
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defense downsize. >> if these cuts happen, there will be a serious disruption in defense programs and a sharp decline in our military readiness. >> leon panetta is leaving his job as secretary of defense. in an impassioned address this week, secretary panetta warned of the looming budget cuts the pentagon faces due to sequestration. sequestration is washington argot for automatic spending cuts that will slash defense department budget by roughly $42.7 billion this year alone. the cuts are currently scheduled to go into effect on march 1, three weeks away. in his speech, panetta says the pentagon is already preparing itself for the budget axe. one of the most visible signs weeing the reduction from two to one the number of aircraft carriers the u.s. operates in the critical persian gulf. >> this is not a game. this is reality. these steps would seriously damage a fragile american economy, and they would degrade our ability to respond to crisis precisely at a time of rising instability across the globe. >> question. can the pentagon survive budget cuts or are secretary panetta's worries
defense downsize. >> if these cuts happen, there will be a serious disruption in defense programs and a sharp decline in our military readiness. >> leon panetta is leaving his job as secretary of defense. in an impassioned address this week, secretary panetta warned of the looming budget cuts the pentagon faces due to sequestration. sequestration is washington argot for automatic spending cuts that will slash defense department budget by roughly $42.7 billion this year alone. the...
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. >> we did the defense authorization bill. 380 amendments, and we went forward and did the right thing. i am guardedly optimistic. >> we did postal reform. towards the end of the year, little noticed, but there were some complicated pieces of legislation. they did not pass the house, most of them, but they got through the senate with a good bipartisan support. >> do you buy this pendulum idea that it reached its nadir? >> maybe i am wrong. maybe that is not the case. we were able to make certain progress in other areas, and i think historians that study the senate will look back on this version of this nuclear option, because if it had happened, and it was going to happen unless we came up with this road map for the leaders -- >> this is the filibuster reform. >> on the filibuster, that if the senate had gone to a 51- vote body, it would have changed the nature of the united states senate forever. >> before you leave, senator schumer, you have some quality time with the president. one of the hats you wear, you are chairman of the joint inaugural committee. and some of the jobs are -- >
. >> we did the defense authorization bill. 380 amendments, and we went forward and did the right thing. i am guardedly optimistic. >> we did postal reform. towards the end of the year, little noticed, but there were some complicated pieces of legislation. they did not pass the house, most of them, but they got through the senate with a good bipartisan support. >> do you buy this pendulum idea that it reached its nadir? >> maybe i am wrong. maybe that is not the case. we...
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also we have to reduce our areas of -- in our national defense. when we spoke earlier i was pleased to hear you did not support these indiscriminate, unprioritized cuts that sequestration would cause. if allowed to take effect, how would sequestration impact the ability to meet the future threats and challenges? as i shared with you i chaired the subcommittee on the threats and capabilities. so i'm particularly interested in your thoughts. you were commenting on the cyber issues airforce basely being considered in the emerging threats and capability. so my question is what impact do you believe that these cuts would have on our service members and their families at home and abroad and in particular, the cuts in the sequestration, how would this impact areas such as cyber security and the other areas? >> well, first, as we have said this morning and you know the chiefs made very clear, secretary penetta. there would be serious consequences to the management of our defense department and our ability to have the flexibility and make the decisions not
also we have to reduce our areas of -- in our national defense. when we spoke earlier i was pleased to hear you did not support these indiscriminate, unprioritized cuts that sequestration would cause. if allowed to take effect, how would sequestration impact the ability to meet the future threats and challenges? as i shared with you i chaired the subcommittee on the threats and capabilities. so i'm particularly interested in your thoughts. you were commenting on the cyber issues airforce basely...
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but did he bomb enough to cost him the job of the secretary of defense? it doesn't look like it this morning. >>> turning to the january jobs report, no big surprises in this month's numbers, and although there were some major revisions to take into account for the end of 2012, first the top-line numbers. 157,000 jobs were added in january. almost exactly what analysts had been expecting. the analysts were right on this front this time. the unemployment rate ticked up a tenth of a point to 7.9% but the real headline is what happened to the numbers in november and december. the government now reports 247,000 jobs were added in november. that's up from the original mark of 161,000. and, by the way, that's the highest mark since february of last year. december jobs were -- were revised from 155,000 to 196,000. back to january's numbers. here are the sectors that saw the biggest changes -- retail added 33,000 jobs. construction added 28,000. health care added 23,000. transportation lost 14,000. and government, once again, lost 9,000. mostly at the federal lev
but did he bomb enough to cost him the job of the secretary of defense? it doesn't look like it this morning. >>> turning to the january jobs report, no big surprises in this month's numbers, and although there were some major revisions to take into account for the end of 2012, first the top-line numbers. 157,000 jobs were added in january. almost exactly what analysts had been expecting. the analysts were right on this front this time. the unemployment rate ticked up a tenth of a...